Mark Driscoll on Legalism and Anti-legalism

For discussion and reflection

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11 Responses

  1. The last 1 minute or so was worth hearing. He has a point. But he’s in danger of criticising the Pharisees. But then so am I. So, for criticising him, I’m as bad as him.

  2. “Oh that church doesn’t use instruments? We have a punk band! Yee haw! Thank you Jesus!” 🙂

  3. Mark Driscoll may be my favorite Calvinist.

  4. I have a question and don’t know where to ask it.

    Was there any mention at all of Memorial Day or “D” Day at your church?

    How about Veterans Day? if not why not?

  5. I wonder how we are to move past the “default mode” of humanity. Everytime we try to involve our friends or our neighbors in Christ and His work, I get the feeling that they think we are in the default mode. Anyone else get this feeling?

  6. War should not be glorified in church.

  7. @Alabama John
    In our sermon series at our congregation, we had set our preaching schedule a while back and we had Scheduled yesterday to be about Samuel. The guy who preached yesterday to preach from I Sam. chapter 7 about the Philistines attacking the Israelites at Mizpah. After the battle, Samuel set up the stone called Ebenezer.

    The preacher talked about recognizing our stone of help. We didn’t plan this sermon to fall on Memorial Day, but it worked nicely. So the preacher took a minute out of his sermon for the congregation to honor those in our midst who had served in the military.

    @Gary Cummings
    War does not have to be glorified in order to recognize Memorial Day and honor those who have put their lives on the line by serving in the military. One does not have to be a hawk or a war monger in order to recognize the sacrifice of those who have fallen in military service and the risks taken by those who did not fall.

  8. Might be a good post to start.

    If there is a history and glorification of War and defeating enemies, it is the Bible. Both physical and spiritual.

  9. Thanks Brian

    Bet there wasn’t a dry eye in the building. Good for ya’ll.

  10. Why not remember the victims of war of all sides: the Germans and Japanese, vietnamese, Koreans, American Indians, Iraqis and Afghans and many others? Why not remember conscientious objectors like Desmond Doss, and pacifists like Alexander Campell, Barton W. Stone, Tolbert Fanning, and David Lipscomb? The story of Andre Trocme and Le Chambon should be mentioned as well.
    Typically, Memorial Day is a day we avoid going to church, as it glorifies war and the so-called “good death”.
    I say all of this as a Navy vet and Corpsman, HM2.

  11. Gary, I respect what you say, but I disagree.

    I also am a vet (CTR2) who leans towards pacifism. But I realize that without those whom God used to give me the right to believe that way I would be in quite a difficult situation.

    Honoring those who left home and hearth and sacrificed to set men free – and some of our wars allow for no other interpretation, though obviously not all of them – is not glorifying war. It is a glorification of the same type of substitutionary sacrifice we remember every Sunday. Remembering Jesus death in no way glorifies either sin or crucifixion, it merely gives honor where honor is due – the One who gave all that others may live.

    That is why, every year, my memorial day sermon leads directly into a communion meditation.

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